Thought Villa defeat was bad? Forest’s summer is only going to get worse
It is only a short drive back to the East Midlands, but it would have felt like an age for Nottingham Forest as they stewed on the ramifications of Thursday night’s 4-0 defeat to Aston Villa.
Morgan Gibbs-White was probably fed up of the thinking time already, Forest’s No 10 having cut a powerless figure on the sidelines at Villa Park.
One of the more enduring images of this Europa League semi-final against Aston Villa was the sight of a stitched-up Gibbs-White on the Forest bench, sporting a Harry Potter scar and bruises around both eyes.
He was named among the substitutes, but clearly he was not fit to play, making Monday’s clash of heads with Chelsea goalkeeper Robert Sanchez as crucial as any other moment of this tie, which Villa turned around emphatically.
For those fans in red, it was a tough watch. Forest never looked like troubling Villa, recording just two shots on target, making the what-could-have-beens with Gibbs-White fit a futile but inevitable reflection.
Gibbs-White has played his way into World Cup contention of late, thriving at Forest after being convinced to stay last summer by owner Evangelos Marinakis – turning down Tottenham Hotspur’s advances and extending his contract to 2028.
It was a “statement of intent” in Forest’s own words, with Marinakis regarding a move to Tottenham a backwards’ step for the attacking midfielder.
The Greek knew what was possible with Gibbs-White in the squad, and even through this madcap season – copy and paste for Forest fans these days – featuring four permanent managers and a relegation battle, the Champions League still drew closer thanks to the Europa League’s offering.
Last week’s 1-0 win over Villa in the first leg took them within touching distance – 180 minutes away – but Thursday reverse set them back at least another year, and was a chastening reminder of where Forest truly stand against a club they would love to emulate, never mind Brentford, Bournemouth and Brentford, one of whom could yet reach the Champions League as well.
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It is worth remembering Forest were without a host of other regular starters beyond solely Gibbs-White, with Murillo, Callum Hudson-Odoi, Ibrahim Sangare and Ola Aina also absent due to injury.
And the sobering reality is that this could be a mere glimpse of the times that lie ahead.
The Champions League would have given Forest a foundation to thrive, to build around Gibbs-White and ensure he is not merely the talisman but one of many.
Instead, it will now be harder to convince some players to stay. Gibbs-White may well be glad he did not leave for Tottenham after all, but with an England place uncertain, the 26-year-old could get itchy feet if he misses out on Thomas Tuchel’s squad for North America.
The widely-coveted Elliot Anderson meanwhile looks destined to leave, The i Paper reporting Manchester City are in pole position ahead of Manchester United to sign the midfielder.

Murillo also has admirers, including United, Liverpool and Real Madrid, and the loss of those two players in Forest’s spine, even while retaining others, would have a major impact: Anderson and Murillo could fetch north of £150m combined, but their departures would set a far different tone for the summer than the one Marinakis would have wanted. There would have to be more conversations with players within the squad, and tougher talks when it comes to enticing players without the lure of the Champions League.
And who ever knows what is around the corner with Forest. Vitor Pereira has steadied the ship, a 10-game unbeaten run pulling them six points clear of the drop zone with three games to go, and taking them to a European semi-final.
However, Pereira also enjoyed a bright start at Wolverhampton Wanderers before it went south at the start of this season.
The Portuguese is not one for longevity. His previous five roles have all lasted less than a year, his stint with Chinese Super League outfit Shanghai SIPG from 2017 to 2020 the longest he has ever managed.
But then again, Marinakis is not one for managers hanging around either, an approach that very nearly paid off until it very much didn’t, meaning this season now reads as a once-in-a-generation opportunity squandered.
We will never know how this European campaign would have played had Nuno Espirito Santo remained in charge, or reigning Europa League winner Ange Postecoglou, or Sean Dyche for that matter.
What does matter is the direction in which they’ve gone, and the fear they could retreat further still once the transfer window opens.
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